tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post1795612398968623174..comments2024-03-28T10:18:05.213+00:00Comments on Inventory Full: First Impressions: WoW ClassicBhagpusshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-41971718988988856782019-08-29T11:07:24.238+01:002019-08-29T11:07:24.238+01:00yeah wowdecrypted is the one. I've been playi...yeah wowdecrypted is the one. I've been playing Elite most recently but my written output for that is mostly via the discord communities. Posts most relevant for classic would be from the early part of the blog, 2008 and 2009 in the TBC area.<br /><br />The short version is take two gathering skills and sell stuff on the auction house. When you get a bit of a stake, you can flip items bought low on bids then sold at reasonable prices. The auctioneer software I used back in the day is still current, but I dont know if there is a classic version yet.Cryptographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00396055699591027683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-34285009109369487152019-08-28T19:50:05.512+01:002019-08-28T19:50:05.512+01:00Ah, I see. I was confused because I've never s...Ah, I see. I was confused because I've never seen the "modern" version, which sounds awful by the way. Of course I used to have big arguments about how traveling improved MMOs (everyone else wanted to teleport everywhere; I liked having to roam around).<br /><br />Anyway sorry for the confusion; I guess "quest hub" can have different meanings to different people depending on their points of reference!Nimgimlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00230174946054927922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-15969529841677721242019-08-28T16:21:01.876+01:002019-08-28T16:21:01.876+01:00I have just been looking up money-making "gui...I have just been looking up money-making "guides" for Classic this very minute. I am down to one silver again after blowing all the rest (9 silver!) on the skills I hadn't trained and one six slot bag. <br /><br />Every guide I read was utterly useless. Most assumed you were already Level 60 for a start! NOt one had a single idea that wasn't blindingly obvious. I'd be very interested to see yours but I could only see posts going back to 2009 on WoW Decrypted.<br /><br />I'm amazed I don't have your blog on my blog roll already but I've added it now. The other one listed under your profile seems never to have been used so I left that off. The last post on WoW Decrypted is over a year pld so I'm not sure if that's your current blog - let me know id you have another one and I'll add that.<br /><br />I'm Level 8 now and it is slowing down a bit, but if you factor out all the running and the non-leveling stuff I'm doing, I'm really not convinced it's slower than the free trial speed. I know from experience in the last couple of years that Live WoW at low levels ona subbed account is a lot faster than the free trial and I doubt many people reading this have actually levelled characters on the free trial recently so I'm guessing they are using the Live WoW pace as a benchmark.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-8520285358506123392019-08-28T14:53:36.803+01:002019-08-28T14:53:36.803+01:00You can't on a subbed account. You have to sta...You can't on a subbed account. You have to start a completely new account with a different email address. That's what I did at first but when they changed it so you could log in your characters under 20 on a dormant accoung I swapped to using my old one. Now that's subbed, I can play the characters I made while on free trial but they're just regular subbed characters.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-24879042661001270132019-08-28T14:26:08.860+01:002019-08-28T14:26:08.860+01:00Its been many years since I've played a below ...Its been many years since I've played a below 20 character in wow. I've gone back to classic to recreate the nostalgia with my most-played identity, the undead rogue Cryptography. The really low level zones, particularly the little pre- level 5 kiddie pool areas are very much on rails. Quests and monster spawns are all where they were 15 years ago. Newbie zone difficulty is about where it was, except the mobs are neutral rather than hostile. Very early on in Vanilla many of the monsters in the Forsaken start zone were flagged hostile, whereas the ones in (all) other newbie zones were neutral. This was fixed in a patch at some point. I remember the dwarf and human start zones being even more on rails, but I played Alliance after getting a lot of gameplay horde side first so that taints the experience. The bunny behaviour is probably authentic as well. I am level 6 or 7 now, venturing out into the harsher world. I am confident I can handle the human farmers I know are ahead, but the damn murlocs were the bane of my early existence and I expect they will trouble me some again! I actually wrote articles about this stuff in the very early years of my blog if anyone cares to revisit, as well as some gold making strategies for newbies. I wonder if they still work!<br /><br />Anyway, I have farmers and Scarlet Crusaders to murder!Cryptographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00396055699591027683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-3866900176686022682019-08-28T07:49:27.703+01:002019-08-28T07:49:27.703+01:00Yep, I think that sums it up very well. What I'...Yep, I think that sums it up very well. What I'm rying to find out is if Blizzard re-organized all of that in a specific update or expansion or whether it happened piecemeal over time. My feeling is that they probably started to cluster questgivers in hubs with strict linear progression in Burning Crusade (I rememebr a distinct change of approach like that when I first got to BC) but the old world might not have been properly hubbed until Cataclysm. <br /><br />I also remember that the "on rails" feeling loosens up once you get into the mid-0s and above. Looking forward to that.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-37347428719527054532019-08-28T07:45:41.289+01:002019-08-28T07:45:41.289+01:00I'm fairly sure now that this is a semantics i...I'm fairly sure now that this is a semantics issue (most things are!). I've done a bit of research but very little shows up. There seems to be some crossover with the concept of a "hub" and the introduction of daily quests, the hub being the place where the daily questgivers all stand. I think that might be what people meant when they were talking about WoW specifically introducing "hubs" at some stage.<br /><br />There's also some suggestion that, as you say, the original more "disorganized" (I'd say "naturally distributed" or "organic" positioning of questgivers was rationalized to create a clear (I might say linear) progression path. If that happend with a specific update or expansion, though, I haven't been able to nail it down - yet.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-52418014639893930712019-08-28T07:36:50.937+01:002019-08-28T07:36:50.937+01:00Ah, thanks! Wilhelm mentioned that in passing in h...Ah, thanks! Wilhelm mentioned that in passing in his post but I wasn't quite sure. At the moment I'm enjoying it but I think the novelty will wear off fairly soon.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-43160887217644309692019-08-28T02:56:22.660+01:002019-08-28T02:56:22.660+01:00If indeed the 'quill on parchment' reveal ...If indeed the 'quill on parchment' reveal of the quest text becomes more tedious than charming -- there is a tick box in the options to allow for 'instant quest text'. I didn't last very long before I hunted down said option and enabled accordingly :)Venzurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-67075057363533560462019-08-27T23:47:52.894+01:002019-08-27T23:47:52.894+01:00With regards to the hubs, the difference becomes m...With regards to the hubs, the difference becomes more apparent as you climb in levels. The modern game keeps you pretty sharply leashed to the hub, with most quests happening within a few hundred yards of the hub. In Classic, the lower level quests mostly function that way, but as you level up, the quests will start to require more travel, many times between continents or across a zone. It's definitely not a lack of hubs, but rather hubs in Vanilla not being as central to the experience. Compared to the way the game currently is, it feels pretty freeform (and you can pack up and move somewhere else within your level range if you so desire) but it is still pretty on-rails.Kaylrienehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00733150899930070767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-61966136131707522592019-08-27T21:10:06.110+01:002019-08-27T21:10:06.110+01:00I remember classic WoW having quest hubs, but real...I remember classic WoW having quest hubs, but really poorly organized ones. For example, I remember several chains of quests where there was a big gap in levels between one quest and another. You would do everything you could solo in one spot, and then have to come back several levels later to finish everything (if you could remember to). I also remember that not being an issue until you were into the mid to late teens, the low level game was pretty linear from what I recall.<br /><br />I absolutely would sub up and find out how many of my memories are accurate, but I'm completely obsessing out on the hardcore server in DDO right now. I try never to sub to more than one game at a time. Maybe in a few weeks I'll switch over and check it out.<br /><br />Yeebohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08028940396189544294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-75470884208129171712019-08-27T20:54:14.289+01:002019-08-27T20:54:14.289+01:00Subbed account. I'm not sure how I would play ...Subbed account. I'm not sure how I would play on a free trial on live, yet subbed on Classic.XyzzySqrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07492223901575470508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-61358362218384043422019-08-27T20:23:20.137+01:002019-08-27T20:23:20.137+01:00I wouldn't have known anything about it but I ...I wouldn't have known anything about it but I read a couple of things in the run-up to Classic where people were statig quite plainly that quest hubs came in later. I think what they mean is the system WoW uses now, where you literally can't get any quests in a new area until you've completed the previous one. In Classic, supposedly, you can explore and pick up quests wherever you go, if they're in your level range.<br /><br />What I saw today was the familiar phenomenon of one quest opening up a number of others and every area having a breadcrumb quest to point you to the next. The difference is marginal when you stay in the same area but Iguess it would be different if you roamed around more. Also, of course, at level 3 or 4 there aen;t going be many quests any NPC is going to give you!Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-52737161233424653632019-08-27T20:18:00.186+01:002019-08-27T20:18:00.186+01:00It did occur to me that if there was anything they...It did occur to me that if there was anything they might have not bothered to change from Live it could have been how critters move. Not sure anyone is likely to care. If it was like that in Vanilla, though, it;s very impressive. Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-14689697443154187832019-08-27T20:15:46.507+01:002019-08-27T20:15:46.507+01:00Ah, but were you playing on the Free Trial on Live...Ah, but were you playing on the Free Trial on Live or on your subbed account? It does speed up after about level 10 on the free trial as you begin to get better quest rewards, but I'm usually in greys until the low teens and I'm lucky if I've made a gold by level 15 or so. <br /><br />I also found the fights harder and I died more on Live. I was only writing it up fairly recently when I played the Panda Monk. Part of it is that the Live version has an insane amount of narrative and quests, every word of which I read. That has to slow it down a lot, too.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-23703460455675108852019-08-27T20:07:03.539+01:002019-08-27T20:07:03.539+01:00It has been a LONG time since I played WoW (I star...It has been a LONG time since I played WoW (I started in F&F Alpha, quit right after Burning Crusade launched) but my sometimes faulty memory tells me that quest hubs were a thing back then. Like over in Stormwind land, you started at Goldshire, did a bunch there. Had a couple at the farms south of there. Then there was a cluster at the entrance to Westfall, another cluster at a guard tower out toward Redstone? Redhills? Redrock? And so on. Nimgimlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00230174946054927922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-55935727604250467792019-08-27T19:30:34.392+01:002019-08-27T19:30:34.392+01:00I rolled a Tauren Shaman on the live servers, and ...I rolled a Tauren Shaman on the live servers, and I've rolled a Tauren Shaman on Classic.<br />On Live it took me a day of playing and I hit level 14.<br />On Classic roughly the same amount of time has me at level 6.<br /><br />I'd say there's very much a difference.XyzzySqrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07492223901575470508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-80741230370556095282019-08-27T19:14:32.516+01:002019-08-27T19:14:32.516+01:00"Chat deteriorated into an orgy of triumphali..."Chat deteriorated into an orgy of triumphalism about how superior we all were to be playing Classic rather than Live, at which point I switched it off."<br /><br />I was only logged in to a character about 5 minutes yesterday, and this sort of chat was going on the whole time.<br /><br />It was indeed rather offputting. <br /><br />As for the bunnies, yeah -- I think that is legitimate classic behaviour. What makes me a tad unsure is that my memories of leveling alts at that point in the past sort of all blurs together across vanilla, BC and wrath. I did a lot in each (many of them due to server switches before character moves were allowed).<br /><br />So it's possible it came at a later release, but I don't *think* so.Naithinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830174305806727004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-11481163661611913262019-08-27T18:23:23.156+01:002019-08-27T18:23:23.156+01:00After I have tea I'm going to go to Ironforge,...After I have tea I'm going to go to Ironforge, train skinning and tailoring, then go back and skin the blasted lot of them! Thanks for the tip!Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-49342732129196142602019-08-27T17:49:57.345+01:002019-08-27T17:49:57.345+01:00Getting trapped in the wendigo cave in the middle ...Getting trapped in the wendigo cave in the middle of spawns nearly happened to us last night. We were standing on a spawn point and pulling distant ones to us when a couple spawned right in our midst. Skronk had to heal!Wilhelm Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07033496821708933394noreply@blogger.com