tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post216697519314727763..comments2024-03-28T10:18:05.213+00:00Comments on Inventory Full: Alone Together OrBhagpusshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-25060182513567208312015-07-18T19:27:33.314+01:002015-07-18T19:27:33.314+01:00Lot of people in that boat I think. I liked the wa...Lot of people in that boat I think. I liked the way The Buzzcocks put it : "nostalgia for an age yet to come". At least that suggests you might get there one day.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-28852521784208146782015-07-18T06:41:49.159+01:002015-07-18T06:41:49.159+01:00Is it possible to miss that feeling without ever h...Is it possible to miss that feeling without ever having been involved with it - because that's where I am.j3w3lhttp://healingthemasses.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-72265515306165243502015-07-17T04:50:07.823+01:002015-07-17T04:50:07.823+01:00I wish in a way WoW had a classic server. I though...I wish in a way WoW had a classic server. I thought about the EQ/EQ2 new progression servers but it just always feels like it gets rushed and turns into a regular server for some reason. I find in games with smaller communities you find more of what we once had with helping and looking for others. Such as our time in AoC, the people in our guild were so eager and helpful and nice. Haven't seen that in years. Also DAoC always has that old feel,every time I go back I find people eager to take me under their wing and really make me feel at home. Nothing ever like the welcome I had to that game. The Co-Op server, fantastic server as far as community goes. kaozzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15058067791146704803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-58459958282070677772015-07-16T20:28:42.972+01:002015-07-16T20:28:42.972+01:00I still have it in mind to try one of the Vanilla ...I still have it in mind to try one of the Vanilla WoW retro servers that were recommended in the comments of a previous post here. I think I'm done with "classic" Everquest as far as spending any serious amount of time leveling a character there goes but I never experienced WoW as-was so it would be both familiar and new. I don't know how much grouping goes on there but I imagine there must be some.<br /><br />Time is always the factor though. I can imagine dropping in for a few sessions but not giving up the time from playing newer games, which I think it's fairly clear from the choices I make are what I really prefer to play these days.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-39448320282583854832015-07-16T18:32:19.103+01:002015-07-16T18:32:19.103+01:00The EQ TLP is working for me. At the level ranges ...The EQ TLP is working for me. At the level ranges I am at (27 and 11 are the 2 toons I am playing) I have grouped more in the past 2 months than the previous 8 years combined. It's crazy. IT's not the same old EQ (it is actually better, with all the modern conveniences they kept in) but it's a big scary, dangerous world and people need (and want) each other to be safe. It's really beautiful to experience again.<br /><br />This experience has tempted me to do the p1999 because they ban boxing at least, which is the only minor annoyance when you come across it. People respect camp rights still, etc.Iseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09489936780809266112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-3980138929225134822015-07-16T12:45:56.537+01:002015-07-16T12:45:56.537+01:00Beautifully said! A fantastic read, makes me miss ...Beautifully said! A fantastic read, makes me miss those old days. I'm still chasing the unicorn too...kaozzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15058067791146704803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-57863825873345603902015-07-15T19:57:51.971+01:002015-07-15T19:57:51.971+01:00I used to think I wanted an offline version of Eve...I used to think I wanted an offline version of Everquest. It would still be nice to have offline versions of MMOs we love just as a security blanket for the day when the final server goes dark but I don't think I'd ever play offline in preference to online. Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-25869140239664234452015-07-15T19:54:05.084+01:002015-07-15T19:54:05.084+01:00What put that in my mind was my own reaction the n...What put that in my mind was my own reaction the night before to someone in GW2 who sent me three rapid tells just saying "Hi". They did it faster than I could respond and by the time the third "Hi" appeared I put them on block. Ten years ago I would not have reacted like that. I'd at least have spoken to them, even if I was expecting a pointless conversation. I would never just have blocked someone for sending me an unsolicited tell - even three of them in a row. <br /><br />I am going to make more of an effort to be open to these random contacts from now on. We'll see how long that lasts and what comes of it.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-87123753761501872212015-07-15T19:49:03.719+01:002015-07-15T19:49:03.719+01:00The music comparison is an especially good one. Th...The music comparison is an especially good one. There used to be a theory that a major new trend in popular music would arrive every 7-10 years, which is basically when a new half-generation appears, ready and willing to embrace something different from their older siblings. That really worked when popular music was the world's dominant cultural force. Whether gaming is going to pick up on that cadence I'm not sure but if it does I think it will have more to do with technological than creative innovation.<br /><br />I completely agree that someone coming completely fresh to MMOs (which will inevitably mean younger players more often than not) can have a personal epiphany but they can't, sadly, twin that epiphany with the epiphanies of millions of others and create a zeitgeist. It remains a very meaningful life experience for the individual but no longer for the culture.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-87170533845989863762015-07-15T17:12:22.979+01:002015-07-15T17:12:22.979+01:00This post definitely made me think. It's funn...This post definitely made me think. It's funny because I often prefer to play WoW alone (or maybe with one other person) and yet if somehow stopped being an MMO I don't know if I'd play it anymore. How odd. The arcade and cafe analogies are spot on.Pikehttp://www.aspectofthehare.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-34269535975744211502015-07-15T16:27:26.806+01:002015-07-15T16:27:26.806+01:00This resonated with me. Back in the day, when you ...This resonated with me. Back in the day, when you stopped to help someone, they took the time to thank you and if felt like chat wasn't so toxic either. These days, I get a whisper and I assume it is gold spam, someone begging for free game money, or a spoiled child. Most of the time it is one of those things now. I miss what we had and agree that it is gone. Especially in a F2P MMO market where anyone and everyone can come try out a game. <br />I got into MMOs because they were so much better than the multiplayer options in Neverwinter Nights and we had friends far away we could play with. I could group with my hubby in a setting that was designed for it without being forced into predictable MOBA patterns/play. But I have generally hung with a group of like minded guildies and tried to ignore the rest of the behaving badly rubes that were increasingly showing up by the time I started into MMOs. There is still value in playing in MMO worlds, but the play style has certainly changed. It is one reason I think SWTOR was probably being wise in their design of their upcoming new content, although it annoys me for not being able to easily partner with my hubby or RL friends. Win some, lose some.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-77271911819473989562015-07-15T09:11:27.113+01:002015-07-15T09:11:27.113+01:00Ahhhh the waning star of the magical MMO experienc...Ahhhh the waning star of the magical MMO experience. A very beautiful post, Bhag :)<br /><br />Some years ago I wrote about the early days of UO/EQ/WoW and how having missed that era as an MMO player is comparable to a rock and blues fan having missed 1969. You can still go to concerts and listen to all the Woodstock musicians at home but it's never quite the same experience. If you're really really interested in those genres of music, it will always sting to have missed such a pivotal time.<br /><br />Some moments in history are truly unique and defining. The shared, collective experience has much to do with it, too. And you're right, it's an individual's experience but it's embedded in a greater phenomenon, where everyone around you is sharing the same emotions at the same time. That brings people together like sticky tape (in fact also negative experiences do the same).<br /><br />For what its worth, I still think a younger person than me, discovering the internet and MMOs today, can have a "magical newbie experience" together with other players. You can see this is true because most MMO players always name their first MMO as the best, no matter when it came out. When I played Wildstar last year, there were players in my guild easily 15y younger than me and they showed vigour and enthusiasm where I could not. To them, that game was the game. Just because I have moved past this type of wonder doesn't mean it cannot still happen for others. That's an easy trap to fall into because personal online fatigue. ;)<br /><br />Nothing lasts forever. That is the greatest, best and worst lesson we all struggle with in this life.Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473554645340972749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-69664649970056213892015-07-14T19:08:40.243+01:002015-07-14T19:08:40.243+01:00I do watch Eri's videos, or at least the ones ...I do watch Eri's videos, or at least the ones that catch my eye, and I did look at the No Man's Sky one. It's a game that keeps cropping up in various places as "something amazing" but I can't say I could see quite why from that video and I haven't really investigated it any further. It did look interesting but then so do a lot of things in promos.<br /><br />I actually think it will take a technological paradigm shift to bring back that full-on "I can't believe I'm really doing this" feeling. VR would like to be that shift but so long as it involves awkward headsets I can't see it breaking out of a very specific niche. We'll know it when it happens though, that's for sure. Just hope I live long enough to experience it.Bhagpusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03499162165023939880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1510920011443550663.post-66876536263077697932015-07-14T18:02:25.531+01:002015-07-14T18:02:25.531+01:00I don't know if you bother watching the videos...I don't know if you bother watching the videos that Eri features in her Link Dead Radio posts, but this week's post has a gameplay showcase for No Man's Sky, which is absolutely worth watching. Even watching that small overview brought on a sense of what you talked about losing, the wonder of living in a shared virtual world. I can imagine that that sense will be so much stronger when you are actually playing for yourself rather than passively watching.<br /><br />Perhaps that is the only way we'll be able to recapture that wonder, in those ambitious few projects that really push the boundaries. We certainly won't find it in the current model of MMO, as you said.Dahakhahttp://starfiredbeef.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com